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FOX Business
Oct 1, 2012 1:00pm EDT
questions after his speech. let's listen in. >> japan, of course, is the first modern economy to be trapped at the zero bound. interest rates close to zero. their experience foreshadowed the global financial crisis of 2008. the japanese had a stock market booming bust and a property boom and bust together which was roughly double the size, proportionally speaking, to the united states. it was a major shock to the economy. they have responded to it to a variety of tools. i think a couple things that we learned from watching their experience and troubles and difficulties they have been through and to that i would point to that we have tried to learn from them, the first is, aggressiveness, early aggressiveness of monetary policy. what we learned from japan is we learned from the 1930s. once you have a deflation, prices dropping, prices and wages are dropping, they can be very very hard to get out of that. there is a lot of downward pressure on the economy. we were very aggressive early on in the united states to avoid deflation and we have maintained inflation close to our 2% target which is
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 11:00am PDT
. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> so john harwood, before we talk about this back and forth, i want to talk about the psychological impact of the rate falling below 8% today. >> it's positive for obama and say that the rate is where it was when i took office. i don't think we should be under any illusions. 7.8% is a high unemployment rate, weak economy. it is a talking point for the administration, and it will get a lot of media attention. it doesn't change the underlying economic reality facing americans, which is not good. >> the labor department lsd employers added 114,000 jobs in september. the goal would have been around 150,000, 155,000, right john? >> exactly. there were upward revisions from the month of august, which is positive for the administration. generally speaking as one labor economist told my colleague"th,n economy with three speeds, slow, idle and reverse. we're in slow mode right now, and this report reflects it. >> let's brin
FOX Business
Oct 4, 2012 9:20am EDT
their guy had a bad day. they hedged. obama and romney spar over fixing the economy, they said. well, dare i call this a romney rally? i will tell you that stocks will open up today. the day after the romney win. "varney & company" is about to begin. you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. >> october 4th, a lot happened during last night's debate. we have 90 minutes worth of back and forth to choose from. we will pick only the best moments for you. mitt romney was the clear winner because he was focused and forceful. here is one example. clear example of romney attacking the president, the topic is energy. >> but don't forget, you put 90 billion dollars, like 50 year's worth of breaks, into solar and wind, to -- solyndra and fisker and tesla. i have a friend you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. stuart: we've not seen that ki
FOX News
Oct 5, 2012 12:00pm PDT
this is not what a real recovery looks like. the labor department reports the economy added a seasonally adjusted 114,000 jobs last month which brought down the jobless rate to an unexpected 7.8 percent. here is a look at the unemployment rate since 28 state. the gray area on the left is the president since the recession. the rate has not been this low sin the inauguration in january of 2009. of course, this could be a potential boost to the president's campaign. no incumbent since the great depression has beenwith unemplo8 percent. the president said the economy is moving forward and suggested governor romney's policies would spark another financial disaster. >> we made too much progress to return to the policies that led to the crisis in the first place. i cannot allow that to happen and i won't allow it. >>trace: governor romney downplayed the new jobs numbers. he wrote in a statement and i quote, "this is not what a real recovery looks like. we created fewer new jobs in september than in august and fewer jobs in august than in july. we have lost over 600,000 manufacturing jobs since president
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 8:00am PDT
: steve, on the economy specifically, a majority of voters disapprove of the handling of the economy by the president. take a look at this. almost 60% think his economic policies have actually hurt the economy or made no difference at all and that of course is by far the number one issue yet 50% say he deserves to be reelected. do you think, steve, people believe the bill clinton argument that nobody, no president, could have actually solved this in four years? >> yeah, i do think that had some effect. there is no question that president obama came out of the conventions with a little bit of momentum. you talk, it is not only showing up in the public polling that we're talking about here today but talk to republican pollsters polling on senate and house races and they will talk about what they call the clinton bump. they have seen it across polling in various parts of the country that voters who are asked a question is the country on the right track, is the country on the wrong track, which most pollsters believe the single best determiner ho will win in november, there was a jump in
CNN
Oct 4, 2012 11:00am PDT
the economy -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said that the government could provide the service at a lower cost and without a profit. if that's the case then it will always be the best product that people can purchase. >> just a minute, governor. >> my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a better product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree that the voters have a choice, a clear choice between the two of you on medicare? >> absolutely. >> all right. so to finish quickly, briefly on the economy, what is your view about the level of federal regulation of the economy right now? is there too much? and in your se, mr. president, should there be more? beginning with you, this is not a new two-minute segment. we'll go for a few minutes and then we're going to go to health care. okay? >> regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work if you don't have regulation. as a business person, i had to have -- i needed to know the regulations. i needed them there. you couldn't have people opening up banks in their garage and making loans. you have to
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 9:00am EDT
's economy is dead flat, teetering on recession. 10-year high for unemployment and france puts in place huge tax increases. bill: i'm reading the two measures bringing around half a billion euros. >> that's it. >> what will that do for them? >> not much. there are other taxes as well which will bring in a total they think of 20 billion euros. bill: higher tax rates on dividends? >> dividends, capital gains, dividends, profits, reinvestment of capital, interest you name it. bill: here is a query for you. are they cutting spending at all? >> by about $10 billion euros. $20 billion worth of tax increases. $10 billion worth of spending cuts gives you a 30 billion euro reduction they think in the budget deficit. bill: well on the spending cuts, how much resistance was there? >> there is going to be a lot of resistance. in france there is really a cradle to grave security system and the state is at the very center of the economy. when the state starts cutting into to spending, cutting down on spending, there will be some resistance and it will be seen on the streets. bill: do you expect the wealth
FOX Business
Oct 3, 2012 1:00pm EDT
18,000 jobs in the sector. that is where the economy is being structured these days. 10,000 jobs in construction. manufacturing, 4000 jobs. melissa: we were looking at 113, does that make that same life? i just want to remind everyone that is not a good number. >> finding the list that the government number includes state and local layoffs. i don't think that adp number includes that. when you look at those two numbers since january, you will see a defeat for 172,000 jobs a month where it is about 150,000. it has to be above 200,000 to keep up with population growth. again, 8.2% we are looking at coming in for friday. lori: full employment around 4%? nobody talks about that anymore. >> we just talk about the jobless rate. lori: the temperature is going down, find your heating costs going way up? the impact the winter will have on the economy. melissa: take a look at metals had with those who break. gold trading up. copper, basically what. we will be right back. ♪ you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier
FOX Business
Oct 2, 2012 11:00am EDT
they will turn it into something political. it will really be hard, when you think about the economy we are in right now, how can you tell individuals we will raise the price of work did right now we need more work. it would be a bad time to do that. both sides will ultimately agree on that. dagen: we are looking at this calendar with 20 days left at work just for the representatives to deal with this. why isn't the uncertainty, why isn't there any other business that would impact the economy. >> it is entirely possible. you would almost think if the economy or the marcos thought they would let us reach the cliff go over it, you would see a lot of forward activity. the fact you are not seeing it suggests that markets think we get to the final days they will actually come to a deal. a little over a year ago it was that we were days from government default, but, ultimately, they came to a deal. dagen: john, good to see you. as always, thank you. connell: breaking news now. it is on the libor investigation. this is from the exclusive reporting from our own charlie gasparino. chuck grassley
CNN
Oct 3, 2012 9:00am PDT
they both say that they have the answers to try to turn the economy around xshgs it really comes down to appealing to we think about 6% of the electorate right now who hasn't decided who they're going to vote for. of that 6% they live in nine states, including the state that i'm standing in right now. the other states that we're really focussing on as we just talked about, virginia, florida, ohio, it's also nevada, iowa, new hampshire. it's all across the spectrum of who these candidates are trying to reach out to, suzanne. >> and right where you rshgs of course, you mention in colorado nine electoral votes. critical to get them to the magic nm number needed to win. president obama seems to have the advantage in this state, and, of course, the dnc held their convention there back in 2008. how much does it matter to have the hometown advantage, to have the people who are sitting in that audience and perhaps you are ahead in the polls? does it make that much difference in a debate setting? >> well, he certainly has a little bit of a lead right now, according to the latest cnn poll of po
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 1:00pm PDT
's focus is domestic. >> yep. >> no bigger domestic issue than the economy, as we know. we'll have a rather open format. do you think we'll actually hear a specific from mr. romney on how he plans for a revenue-neutral 20% tax cut across the board for every american? are we going to hear that tonight in. >> no, absolutely not. i think what you're going to hear and see is more of a tactic. sort of a communications tactic of making it sound like he's talking like a plan, like that 17,000 cap he threw out the other day and then his team walked that right back. probably -- >> karen, that's known as i've got a hole in my pocket, dear liza. >> that's right. you'll hear him talk about a number of these things as if it sounds like a plan, but without any specifics. i think what you'll see from the president is more specifics. again, the president actually has a record to talk about. i mean, put forward a health care plan. happened to be, you know, based on mitt's, but whatever. he has a jobs plan, a number of things of specifics he can point to whereas romney doesn't. i think that will be part of t
FOX Business
Oct 1, 2012 11:00am EDT
trying to explain why he is pumping even more money into the economy. connell: the supreme court back to work today. whether your cell phone data is protected under the fourth amendment. judge andrew napolitano coming up. dagen: costing apple billionths. connell: let's start with nicole petallides. nicole: looking pretty good here today. we see the dow is up more than 1%. the s&p up nearly 1%. the text -- tech heavy nasdaq up. this was after three months of contraction. that was some good news there. another thing helping things along -- the dollar is lower, the euro is higher. you are seeing just about every name in the dow with an up arrow. i want you to take a book here at macy's. they will higher 80,000 for the seasonal. kohls, amazon, toys "r" us, just to name a few. dagen: host chris wallace had a little trouble getting information from vice presidential candidate paul ryan on his tax plan. >> it is lower by 2013. >> how much does it cost? >> it is revenue neutral. [ talking over each other ] >> we will get to that. >> let me just tell you. it would take me too long to go throug
FOX Business
Sep 28, 2012 5:00pm EDT
to try to pay for all of this. what they will do is destroy their economy. so this will be, this will be the end for france. this can't last. hollande, i can't man he is president for much longer because, because his popularity is plummeting. >> kind of depends on who is, who is out there voting. whether or not they support it. in france there are a whole bunch of people are looking to leave. super victoria supermodels say they will leave the country. >> right. melissa: the head of lvmh will leave the country. ceo of beauty companies saying that they're going to, they're going to have a really hard time, recruiting, l'oreal, will have a hard time recruiting executives because why would somebody come to france and work if giving away 70% of the income. there you go. that is everybody racing for the door. >> right. they have raised tax rates across the board. 41% rate went to 45. they now have a higher tax rate than the average european tax. remember, airbus is in france. so, and part of this tax hike they're taking away the ability of corporations to deduct interest on their
FOX News
Oct 1, 2012 12:00pm PDT
private enterprise to grow the economy. the other, his version of president obama's view is that government is still in control of everything. the challenge for governor romney and the debate on wednesday is going to be fully articulate his vision for america's future to the largest audience of his political career. >> we need to give the american people the choice we are offering. that is what we are offering. we owe the country a very clear choice of a different future. we can have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have a stagnant opportunity that fosters dependency. >> romney campaign is looking for a solid performance, no knock outs which the governor has become famous for. he has been avoiding those since he tried to make the with governor perry. >> what is the word on the foreign policy message for romney? >> the governor has an op-ed in the "wall street journal" saying of president obama, by failing to maintain our new, president obama has heightened the instability. he does not understand that an american policy that lacks resolve can p
CSPAN
Oct 3, 2012 8:00pm EDT
of return. do something to get the economy to move again. i think there's a lot of compelling unions that are think abouting it circhtly. to underestimate the kind of [inaudible] >> i would say one thing to watch political any in the jersey we come from a unionized state than a lot of states in the south. the union have different power and i think one of the things that is important to watch you saw it in wisconsin and you see in other places it's a growing system between public sector and union work force which is growing and the trade and the private sector. they are different views on politics and very different views on public policy coming from both sides. i think we're at an early stage on that. i think it is something to watch as we go forward in terms of the political objectives of public sector and private sector which ultimately different subjective you will see a bit of divergence in that. >> people love to talk about it. the division between public and private sector unions. there a certain number of tenet whether you're public or private. [inaudible] what you pay for the
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 7:30pm PDT
the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he was off his game. i was stunned tonight. rash elyou just mentioned about time, the president needs to get in and fight for that time. there's people that expect him to fight for that time. >> i thought the one thing that mitt romney did tonight that he has not done for the duration of the campaign and was very effective was just lop off the right wing of his party. he didn't care about them tonight. if something was popular, more money for community schools, he was for that. it didn't matter if it would make the right wing, how. whenever the president named a popular policy, more spending on education, more money on medicare, he was for it and he would attack the president for things that were unpopular. so the question becomes can you effectively tie mitt romney to the republican party and its core commitments, both how it acts in the house and the things he has said during the republican debates. and that never really happened tonight. but those of course are the facts of
CNN
Oct 3, 2012 2:00pm EDT
the president's handling of the economy and what mitt romney would do were he elected president to fix the economy. so that is basically the game plan from the romney campaign, do no harm and live to fight another day. >> it is interesting to say he's not looking for a knockout punch, that's apparently what shannon o'brien who was hoping to win that gubernatorial race in massachusetts back in 2002, that's what he said she was so good at. we're talking to her later. romney has been pretty -- he's been known to get forceful, jim, when he lets his dander up, if you will. let's look at a clip here from a debate, a year ago, this is romney, rick perry, mostly romney. roll it. >> the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds, and you get -- and you get 30 seconds to respond, right? anderson -- would you please wait? are you just going to keep talking? >> yes. >> are you going to let me finish with what i have to say. >> remember that moment? i guess my question, having seen that back and forth, remember, you know, romney kind of getting into rick perry's face, can you be that aggressive to
FOX Business
Oct 5, 2012 1:00pm EDT
the economy is in and under employed situation and, i guess, in general when you step back and think falling to 7.8, that is great news. it is still 7.8% and that is not so great. we still have ways to go. lori: the participation rate rose. the improvement and on employment is not because people are giving up which had been a case in prior months. >> that is definitely the case in this month. the reason twice as many people actually found work. this has been a report where it was good news all around. there was not an aspect that statistically took away the message that is sent. lori: private sector hiring was weaker than expected. >> the payroll survey, which is a more accurate survey, that is the one we focus on, companies paying, in any case, what we saw in september was very much in line with the tepid job growth we have seen over the last couple months. the employment situation is probably not getting any worse, but it certainly does not seem like it is getting any better. at this pace, 125,000, we will just not get sustained decline in the unemployment rate. lori: is it safe to say tha
CNBC
Sep 28, 2012 6:00am EDT
a red flag for the economy. we'll talk more about the transports and what they're telling us at 6:40. we'll also focus on the economy with the man who is charged with officially calling recessions and the end of those recessions. james poterba will be here at 7:30. and our corporate story of the morning, smartphones and mobile devices. apple launches the new iphone 5 in 22 more countries today and this comes after blackberry posted better than expected quarterly results after the bell last night. still, it is an uphill climb for this company. we'll be talking to research in motion ceo. and plus we will welcome today's political news maker, senator rand paul, one of the nation's best known tea party members. and by the way, in case you went to sleep early last night, the official nfl refs were back on the field. get this, they got a standing ovation as they took the field. the ravens beating the browns 23-16. we will have more on the game and on what's happening in sports at 6:20 eastern time. first andrew has the morning's top business headlines. >>> on the global markets agenda, results
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 8:00am PDT
obama. obama does not want to talk about the current economy and his current performance, because he knows under that debate he loses. >> if it's all about -- if it's all about record, can mitt romney run on his record and appeal to those that are the ground base of his own party to come out? >> absolutely. the ground base -- the most important thing not only for his side, but if you look at hispanics and women and a variety of voters, the most important topic they're interested in is the economy. it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with the romney campaign is not that they don't talk about the economy. they don't talk about their policies. it's th
FOX News
Oct 3, 2012 6:00am PDT
: tonight is the debate and the economy will be front and center. would you expect the president to admit any of this policies did not work? >> reporter: i would expect the president would deflect attention away from his record. if if you ask where is the middle class going next year after the election, you have -- i would say that the middle class is going to get maybe even worse off because we look like we are head for a real slowdown in the economy and the word recession next year has been used frequently. >> it's being bantered about. stu varney, thank you so much. bill: joe biden was in charlotte, north carolina making that comment. 15 electoral votes. a look at how he succeed, 4.3 million votes cast in the state. president obama won by 14,000 votes. he carried a 100,000 vote margin in charlotte which is where mr. biden was. he had a narrow margin of victory, more than any other state. in charlotte unemployment is above 10%. we'll see how they do, it's tough to win against those numbers. jamie: those numbers are seen in many places,en it will be interesting to hear about what they sa
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 3:00am PDT
't really amount to much. yesterday they had a sort of a veterans message and an economy message during events in virginia but they can't wait for just the debates. i think conservatives want to see not just big events in terms of big ideas but big events that grab the nation's attention. the romney campaign is frustrated because they say all the press asks them about is process but that's par for the course and true in every campaign i've ever covered, the press will talk about process particularly polls. mitt romney, conservatives are waiting for him to be big in events, big in message, big in personality. it seems like right now the campaign is waiting for him to do that in the debates. >> mark, you know why they focus on process, because there's not substance to -- you know, it's funny, in 1988 facing a more hostile press george h.w. bush never once whined about process. you know why? because james baker told the press what they were going to be following. and he told the candidate what he was going to be doing. and every week the candidate did it. the message was unbelievable. but
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 1:00pm PDT
how we're worried in that stagnant obama economy more people are becoming dependent on economy. >> what could be better for the emotional stability of a presidential candidate than your running mate calling you inarticulate? never mind. paul ryan is the one key numbers guy. so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> all right. you know what, mitt? you better put paul ryan away somewhere. send him to a sports bar somewhere in ohio. at least he can have a few beers with voters. he's got that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not b
CSPAN
Oct 4, 2012 5:00pm EDT
literacy, building an economy focused around art, innovation and technology, and supporting local and community policing initiatives. as the students we are glad to have here as well, rachel stanley is a junior at elon college majoring in international studies with all sorts of minors, political science, and she has worked with refugees and her region. she is the president of halal on her campus and the millennial values fellow so we are pleased that she is back. last but not least, mohammad usman is a senior at depauw university majoring in urban policy and conflict studies with a minor in religious studies. he was a part of the national bioethics bowl, the winning team in the last year so congratulations on that. and before attending depauw was a special assistant in advocate for acts of civil legal justice at the university of new york school of law. so welcome to all of them. i would like to hear from all of you, and last night when we heard governor romney talk about states as the laboratory of democracy so while that may have been a republican democrat comment it got me thin
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 3:00am PDT
of terrorism. while some romney advisers argue they should keep their focus on the economy, politico says plans are in the works for mitt romney to deliver a major foreign policy speech shortly after wednesday's debate. what do you think of that? you think he should do that? >> yes. i think, as i said, right after the killing, that wasn't the time to talk about this. >> right. >> now is the time, several weeks later, to talk about it. john heilemann, the lead in "the new york times," mistake in faith and security seen at libya mission before benghazi raid. response to the june bomb raised confidence in local guards. this benghazi story is an absolute mess. i think -- i've heard stuart stevens as saying let's focus on the economy. i think stuart stevens is exactly right. americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i thi
FOX Business
Oct 4, 2012 11:00am EDT
mid election. >> no, but the facts are the facts. if we're talking about jobs and the economy, the greatest thing about this campaign is that voters have no way to say this there's not a difference between the parties. i don't care what you say, romney and the president are in different directions for the country, that's with fiscal policy, domestic policy, with healthcare especially. it is abundantly clear, and i don't know why the president didn't explain why the 5 trillion dollars that's going to be loss and why the 2 trillion is expected. i don't know why as romney said, you keep repeating and repeating, but the fact remains that what happened to the 47% of the people that were written off. aren't they included in the middle class? connell: he never mentioned that. >> he never mentioned it. connell: that had to be on purpose. that had to be -- i mean that was something that's been out there forever. he had to think oh i'm not going to bring this up. >> then why take all these notes on things this guy is saying, where he reversed himself, he should have been just smiling lo
FOX News
Oct 3, 2012 10:00am PDT
for this debate tonight; jobs, the economy, health care. but first, a new distraction for the obama campaign during a critical week. it comes in the form of a video released by "the daily caller" of then-presidential candidate barack obama back in 2007. in it he speaks to a group mostly made up of black pastors. his speech got some coverage at the time he delivered it, but his prepared remarks did not include some of the off-the-cuff, off-prompter moments, if you will, alluding to alleged racism to hurricane katrina and spending decisions made by our elected leaders. our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live in washington with more. mike? >> reporter: hi, megyn. the tone has attracted some attention with then-candidate obama sounding different as he spoke to a large group of african-american religious leaders in virginia. one major topic was mr. obama trying to contrast the response to hurricane katrina and other high-profile disasters. >> when 9/11 happened in new york city, they said this is too serious a problem, we can't expect new york city to rebuild on its own. forget
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 1:00pm EDT
at a military acted any many pennsylvania romney hammered away at the president over the economy. >> i have to tell you that i don't know how a single person who goes to this institution could consider voting for the incumbent for president. i say that for this reason. if they want to go in the military, why, he is planning on cutting our military by about $1 trillion over the next decade. if they want to go on to either get a job directly or go on to a four-year college and come out with a gee, you know that 50% of kids coming out of college today can't find a job or a college level job. on both fronts, this president's policies have not worked for the young people of america. >> their first debate happens on wednesday. the romney team is downplaying expectations. romney advisor beth myers distributes this memo explaining why the president is probably going to do better. she says that president obama is one of the most talented political communicateors in modern history. this will be his eighth one-on-one presidential debate and romney's first. the president will use his ample rhetorical g
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 1:00pm PDT
to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> you heard the president. it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >> okay. but give mr. romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging sp
CNN
Oct 3, 2012 6:00am PDT
left behind a wife and two daughters. >>> need a sign that the economy is picking up? belly up to the bar. beer sales are up for the first time since 2008. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange. is this a bellwether? >> it is, just like lipstick. lipstick sales went up during the recession. they couldn't spend big on other things. beer is a great indicator. it looks like young men seem to be pushing up beer sales. brewers have said that beer sales have struggled over the past few years because young, blue-collared guys were hit hard by the the recession. now there's a recovery. unemployment rate is falling for men in their 20s. more jobs means more money to spend. wall street journal says beer sales are actually up 2% this year, following three years of decline. it really say fun way of looking at the economy, of how beer is affected by the way the economy is doing. overall -- you're laughing. overall it's typically considered recession proof. it's cheap. but for $8 or $9, you can get a nice six pack at home without breaking the bank. and president obama also has a hom
CNN
Oct 5, 2012 11:00am PDT
trying to dig the economy out of a massive hole. we were facing this economic collapse and he came into office and he has a long way to go. he needs four more years to make the difference that he's -- that we're starting to make now. and that we just need to believe that his policies do make a difference. he can now point to the data to say, look, they're making that difference. >> so that tells me even though we for so many people, the psychological number, eight, not that we're under the 8% mark in unemployment, do the obama folks think we're not over the hump, economically speaking? >> they concede that and that people are still hurting and what matters to people at home is not some number that the labor department puts out, but their own economic circumstance and whether they have a job, whether they know somebody unemployed and this is very abstract. so people are still hurting. but in terms of the political gamesmanship, 8% is an important marker because when the president passed the stimulus, one of his economists projected, it wasn't a promise, but a projection that 8% woul
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